Facts, fakes, fools and fury
By Scrutator
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CRUTATOR has seen some proud parents drag their young kids to the South African Embassy to get study permits for primary school.
It’s not surprising that there are people who still think everything from across the border is superior.
They think by sending their children to South African schools they are getting real value for their money.
Where they get such an idea is a mystery because Scrutator is yet to come across any evidence to prove that South Africa’s primary school education is better than that of Lesotho.
The inferiority of Lesotho’s primary education only exists in the heads of self-hating Basotho who seem obsessed with foreign things.
Research has shown that the quality of primary education in South Africa is poor compared to that of almost all countries in southern Africa, including Lesotho.
Yes, you heard me right, South Africa’s primary education is tosh, compared to countries around it and a small one it surrounds.
The Global Competitiveness Report recently released by the World Economic Forum (ww.weforum.org.gcr) ranks the quality of South Africa’s primary education number 132 out of 144 countries studied.
Jacob Zuma’s country scores a lowly 2.3 on a scale of seven.
Only Mozambique scores worse than that in southern Africa.
When it comes to the overall quality of education South Africa’s rank of 140 makes it the worst in the region.
In terms of the quality of math and science training the pompous bully of southern Africa is ranked 143 out of 144 countries.
That means it is better than only one of the 144 countries assessed.
Lesotho is ranked 107 (3.1 out of seven) on the quality of primary education, 102 (3.2) on the overall quality of education and 119 (3.0) on math and science education.
That shows that Lesotho is far better than South Africa when it comes to the quality of basic education.
It simply means if the quality of Lesotho’s education is bad then South Africa’s is terrible.
So which countries are ranked the best in those three categories in Southern Africa? Mauritius is ranked the best on the quality of primary education followed by Botswana and then Zimbabwe.
On quality of math and science training Mauritius is the best, followed by Zimbabwe and then Botswana.
On the quality of education Zimbabwe is ranked the best, followed by Zambia and then Mauritius.
Scrutator will not say more lest the petty bourgeoisie class in Lesotho accuses her of jealous and bitterness.
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ake all the fools out of this world and there wouldn’t be any fun living in it, or profit.”
Those were the words of American humourist Josh Billings sometime in the 19th century.
Scrutator came across the quote in 2005 while reading what other humans in history had to say about fools and foolishness.
Since then she has met thousands of fools who unfortunately did not prove that this world would be less fun without them.
Many of them actually provided compelling evidence that their exit from this earth will actually be beneficial to the world.
They provided neither fun nor profit.
Scrutator laughed her head off when she heard Refiloe Litjobo confessing on radio how he had fallen for a con introduced centuries before he was even a remote idea.
The man the people of Korokoro constituency told to go hang during the May 26 election said he had used M60 000 to buy a special chemical that supposedly makes fake money real.
He bought the chemical, which turned out to be water, from a Zambian and a Congolese.
Litjobo then warned people to be wary of such evil con artistes.
Soon some people were calling the radio station to sympathise with him.
Scrutator thinks there is nothing sad about the story of a greedy man who willingly lost money to a con that even a toddler would have noticed.
Litjobo got exactly what he deserved and his story is actually hilarious.
If you don’t see anything funny in his story then you have the brain the size of a full stop at the end of this sentence. A mere dot is what you have for a brain.
His is just a side-splitting story of a man who was foolish enough to think he can make a loti out of 15 lisente without breaking a sweat.
In short, Litjobo was stupid to fall for a trick that even his great grandfather could have laughed off.
It’s not as if Litjobo was not desperate for money to survive because, by his own admission, he had M60 000 to invest in a dubious deal.
What he really wanted was a means to get rich quickly without working.
The thieves from the north only took advantage of his greed and naivety.
To say the thieves were clever would be to give them undue credit because their trick only worked on a greedy man.
Instead of sympathising with Litjobo people must make him the butt of cruel jokes.
Parents must always point at him when they want to show their children a living example of what happens when you are greedy.
Scrutator is aware that the man will be calling her editors to complain and even threaten to sue the newspaper for alleged defamation but she doesn’t give a hoot.
It is quite ridiculous to believe there is a chemical which makes fongkong currency real.
She will also get crèche kids to testify that in their few years on this earth they have not seen any man sillier than him.
So if he doesn’t want to be embarrassed in court Litjobo must just cool down and allow Scrutator to laugh. He is the joke of the year.
The comic relief is appreciated ntate.
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crutator hears that the teachers at our glorified high school called National University of Lesotho (NUL) are hopping mad over her article last week.
For merely reminding the teachers that there is nothing special about their jobs, she was called unprintable names.
Scrutator is not perturbed by the cries of those spoilt brats.
If anything, she is pleased that the teachers continue to parade their haughtiness and inane ideas for all to see.
Recently, they have begun to threaten to boycott classes if they are not paid the three months salaries which were withheld during their strike last year.
They argue they should be paid because they have made up for the time lost during the strike.
The logic behind their argument is not supported by the sound reasoning you would expect from people teaching at the highest institute of education in the country.
The “no work, no pay policy” is a concept understood by every union in the world.
It is predicated on the understanding that you can be paid for the work you have done.
A salary is compensation for work done at a time prescribed by the employer. NUL teachers are paid for the days they worked in a month.
They cannot choose when they want to work for if that was the case a lecturer would simply pack his lectures within two months of a semester and then enjoy a salary for the rest of the semester while at home.
The lecturers cannot argue that they recovered time lost during the strike to justify why they should be paid.
The only reason they had to work hard to recover the time lost is because they had not worked at a prescribed time. They were not doing it to recover their salaries but to help students catch up on learning time lost.
It’s as simple as that.
If you don’t work in December you cannot be paid the salary for that month simply because you have done the work you were supposed have done then in January.
NUL salaries are paid based on the days worked and not the amount of work done in a day.
The best the teachers can hope for is some sort of an overtime for the extra hours they put in to recover the time lost.
Paying them those salaries will be patently illegal and scandalous.
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till on the issue of salaries, Scrutator has been watching the Marikana debacle with interest.
She would like to pass her condolences to the families that lost their loved ones during the fiasco.
What happened in Marikana were coldblooded state sponsored murders.
For those heinous crimes, people must be brought to justice.
But Scrutator cannot understand why the striking miners are insisting that they should earn R12 500 per month.
You see, the unwritten law of labour is that the more the physical pain involved in your work the smaller the pay cheque. A job that involves a lot of sweating pays less than one that requires more thinking.
The more you sweat the less the money you earn.
That is why salary negotiations have never involved the calculation of kilojoules a worker needs to do their job.
It’s never about the physical energy the worker uses.
Do you know of any job that involves lots of sweating and pays well?
Capitalism rewards brain power rather than muscle power. Those who do general jobs get general salaries no matter the value of the product they are producing.
The easier you are to replace with another human being or a machine the less you get paid.
The mineworkers in Marikana should not pretend that they did know this all along.
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leave with the story of Swaziland’s minister of culture, sports and youth affairs, Hlobi Ndlovu, who spoke her mind after a newspaper told her that her husband has been hurting since catching her with another man at a lodge at OR Tambo Airport.
Ndlovu had allegedly been caught red-handed by her husband Samuel Fidelis who is a South African businessman and pastor.
When the Sunday World called her Ndlovu said: “If my husband is hurting, he must buy Panado and drink it with lots and lots of water to relieve the pain.”
Ache!
scrutator29@gmail.com
Comment by Ua 6Pondo. on 20 September 2012:
Ache! Panado does not cure a broken heart! If you want to hit a man below the belt give him a taste of his own medicine!
Comment by mabuketsa on 20 September 2012:
Ache! Scrutator, kea u t’saba hle. Nnete e tjena ha e hlokahale.
Comment by unknown on 20 September 2012:
Hahahahaaa ke rata eno ea limaumau tse nahanang hore SA primary education is better than Lesotho primary education
Comment by Batho on 20 September 2012:
“Scrutator hears that the teachers at our glorified high school called National University of Lesotho (NUL) are hopping mad over her article last week”
I think you are off the track here. Do you think those people even care about the crap you always write about them ???????????????????? I am sure they have more important matters to attend to than to read all your crap. When I am in Lesotho I even forget that there are newspapers there.
Comment by jojo on 20 September 2012:
@Batho, but you care what scru says about Nul teachers. That is why you were shouting last week. You are always shouting. You care what she says. Everytime she talks about Nul you are the first to comment. You care. You read her so stop pretending. Nxa. You are a fan of scru just like me. Viva scru!
Comment by Nakeli on 20 September 2012:
Fair enough on the primary education bit Scru. But then the WEF scores for this category are on a survey question that is essentially an ‘opinion poll’: ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 7 SEVEN HOW DOES … you know the mantra. In 2011 79 Basotho and 57 South Africans were responded while in 2012 the respondents were 89 and 45 respectively.
My view: education quality should be scrutinized on the following two fronts. Firstly, Statement of Intent which is what the curriculum sets out to achieve and Outcomes. An education system can have a great SoI but deliver abysmal Outcomes or vice versa. One can do badly on both while there is alos a possibility of doing well on both.
I do not know the thinking behind parents taking their kid to SA for primary education. That’s their choice. But how does Lesotho’s education system do on the SoI and Outcomes? And SA?
Comment by Maloma tsona on 20 September 2012:
Ya, for de 1st time in ma life having read all ur articles. this is on point, logical, clean, hilarious and shows gud skills of writting. Ke nna ea chong jwalo, ha o cha o cheche
Comment by The Citizen on 20 September 2012:
WEll scrurator u will always be my favourite ,however, U seem not to direct your arrows to coalition people. Secondly let me burst your bubble the merikane miners got what they wanted . It TEACHES a lot to people like you who are still having colonised brains that blacks should get less ….HOWEVER KHAITSELI EA KA NTSE KE U RATA HAHOLO ,BONYANE REA TSEBA HORE EVERY THURSDAY OUR BRAINS WILL BE CHALLENGED ….kEEP IT UP
Comment by Aunty P on 20 September 2012:
the fact of the matter is that Scru does not mix words! She tells it like it is. NUL Labour Lecture should have told his/her counterparts that No Work No Pay never works in retrospect! They are mad to think they will be paid for the months they did not work.
As for Litjobo, I do not know why he has not been arrested as yet. To buy a chemical that changes counterfeit money into real money is not necessarily to remove the chemical from the streets…. it is because he has counterfeit money to turn into real cash in hand. CID, do you job.
Comment by Gokuu on 20 September 2012:
Maybe the reason parents take their kids to South Africa is it makes it simpler to get into their high schools there. this in turn leads to easy access to the Universities there. Honestly, which parent would want their child at NUL at the moment??
Comment by Moeletsi on 20 September 2012:
Next time Scru, remember, SA has no Embassy but High Commission. Phapang e teng. It is true what you say, SA primary education is kaak.
Comment by Memorandum on 20 September 2012:
Whether you like it or not the NUL academics will be paid that money. Your hatred for NUL staff will take you nowhere. Instead you will just end up suffering from high blood pressure. Get a life woman!!
Comment by Patriot on 20 September 2012:
this is a Complete rubbish, running away from a naked truth wont cure ur aching heart scru. U are either ignorant or not educated
Comment by Gods on 20 September 2012:
Can some one tell me the story of Siverts apart from what LUTARU says?
Comment by Ts'ats'abele on 20 September 2012:
Basotho ba bangata ba itlhoileng ba menahano e fats’e, ba utloile bohloko haholo Scru ke article ena ea hau ka litaba tsa SA Primary education kaha RSA ke thatohatsi e kholo ea bona le moo litaba tsa eona li senang kelello. Ehlile ke ‘nete thuto ea South Africa ea primary ho fihla thutong ea high school e tlase ho thuto ea Lesotho khale re bolela rona ba keneng likolo tsa higher learning naheng eo. Thuto ea teng e boemong bo holimo li-universitying tsa bona haholo tseo e neng ele tsa makhooa feela pele. South Africa e mpa e tella linaha tse ahisaneng le eona fela hobane maburu le makhooa a mose ba e ahetse infrastructure e betere mona Africa, ‘me hase hore e feta linaha tsa Africa ka ntho’e ‘ngoe le e ‘ngoe. Ho ntse ho ena le moo e nang le bofokoli joaloka linaha tsohle Africa mona. Ba ruruhisitsoe lihlooho fela ke hobane makhooa a ba ahetse infrastructure eo linaha tsa Africa li senang eona ka mabaka a bobolu ba ma-Africa.
Athe maths le science RSA ke mehau, ke ka hona e ileng ea hira matichere a mangata a Lesotho le bo Zimbabwe a rutang maths le science. Zimbabwe eona hle ke ‘nete thuto ea bona e holimo haholo mona Southern Africa ena kaofela. Ke kene le bona bana ba Zimbabwe Rhodes varsity ehlile ba ea utloahala hore ba bile le foundation e matla ho tloha primary. Bona kannete naha ea bona e na le quality education in SADC, mohlomong lipolotiki tse bolileng tsa Mugabe ekaba tsona tse senyang tse ntle tse ileng tsa etsoa ke makhooa bo Ian Smith. Fela Zim e ea ipabola thutong ea primary le high school hole ho feta RSA ena e hlanyetsoang hakana ke Basotho ba bang ba esong ho kene likolo teng kapa hona ho phela teng, joale ba lutse ba nahana hore ntho’e ‘ngoe le e ‘ngoe ea South Africa e holimo ho feta Africa ena kaofela, empa hose joalo. Re kene likolo moo, re lutse lilemo tse itseng, motho u ithutile ntho tse ngata ka RSA, matla a eona le bofokoli ba eona haholo nakong eo motho u neng u etsa research lithutong tsa hau. Joale Basotho ba esong ho fumane monyetla oa ho phela RSA kapa hona ho kena sekolo RSA ba bua haholo le ho feta batho ba utloileng ka letlalo, ba iketsa eka ba tseba haholo fela hose letho leo ba le tsebang.
Comment by Khoeli on 20 September 2012:
Litjobo ke masepa feela tjena a motho! Semau-mau se joang!
Comment by Bobete on 20 September 2012:
The 2 Litjobos are a living example that man can live without a brain. They are such miserable excuses for human beings.
Basotho have long been brain washed to believe that every thing that is South African is better that ours. They cross the boarder to shop, drink and probably to get the “forbidden fruit” while every thing is available here.
Comment by Batho on 20 September 2012:
@jojo, read this : “Scrutator hears that the teachers at our glorified high school called National University of Lesotho (NUL) are hopping mad over her article last week”
Do you really believe that those lecturers are “hoping mad” over scrutator’s article ???????????? Please be honest to yourself, come on! If they do, they are indeed good for nothing!!
I read all online newspapers in Lesotho not only Lesotho times because I am always eager to know what is happening in there but I cannot just take any garbbage!!!
Comment by nakeli on 20 September 2012:
Ts’ats’abele moholo oa ka taba tsa hao kea li utloa. Potso ea ka e ntse sala: who among you commenting here le tlatsa taba tsa Scru have compared the curriculum statement tsa Lesotho le SA? Not doubt outcomes in mostly township schools as well as that farce of 30% pass mark show that outcomes are poor.
Who said the outcomes in Lesotho are anything to write home about? That the majority of our learners get GCE in the lowly COSC shows that we are also failing.
*ha ke fosa motho kea akhea*
Comment by Thankha on 20 September 2012:
Hahahahah molesting. A high commission is an embassy. That is only some convention between British commonwealth states among and between themselves. So when both the sending and receiving states are members of that club for promoting colonial nostalgia, they call each other that. We dont insist on that any more than we don’t insist hat a female ambassador is an Ambasadress. An embassy is also known as a mission.
No work no pay is an established principle. It based on the principle of fair remuneration for an equal amount of work. The employer has the prerogative to do how his work is to be done, and indeed the law leaves the hours of work to him. So to say anyone will be paid that money is misleading. They are simply not entitled to it. They withdrew their labour, the employer has withdrawn his remuneration expense. Square and simple.
The issue at NUL is pathetic. Universities the world over make huge monies on consultancy and research, as well as cooperation wit industries. They don’t rely on subventions from cash strapped governments. There is no business sense in fighting for 95% of that money to staff costs, and now their demands actually push costs to beyond the subvention. The cost of everything else has not even been looked into. It is pathetic and can not be allowed. I will not comment on the quality of education, but I have seen a few so called projects by final year students and they are utter rubbish. Without exception.
Scru for your part you do a neat job. Continue girl from Qacha. You provoke thought and civilized, bearded men and breasted women should engage you in debate, not shadow boxing under a cloud of emotional outbursts and copious amounts of beer.
Comment by Keen Internet Reader on 20 September 2012:
I guess we need more than just assessing the quality of our education based on where our country is in a row, of which we also do not have the full story behind such arrangement. First, that you are gloating about this, suggests to me that you are one of those people who see South Africa as the end of the world. Whether Lesotho is ahead of South Africa or not is not the point. There are more issues we need to concern ourselves with regarding the quality of our education: (1) does Lesotho school education prepare its graduates for life after school, (2) are they employable when they leave school or do they drop out of educational system unprepared, (3) when they enter tertiary education what does their quality of knowledge and skills look like, could they meet entry requirements for any tertiary institutions? Or do they have other alternative career paths which they can choose according to their learning needs. What I know is that South Africa might be behind on the row, but hei guess what, they are concerned and doing something about young people who are not able to go through to tertiary and higher education. They are very aggressive on providing them with alternative career pathways. There are many institutions of vocational education emerging in South Africa, catering for those who do not want to be academic (unlike in Lesotho where everyone is expected to go to university and if they choose other career pathways are called dropouts). Hei, by the way, I am surprised and also can’t believe that you still call LOIC and perhaps also other institutions of vocational education colleges of dropouts (see article titled students injured in attack, “…. a vocational school for “dropouts” and adults”)? Tell me the point of your gloating? Really, what it is the point? Don’t you think your gloating demonstrates how little you know about education? Those parents who take their children to South Africa pave way for their children’s post school career options, and perhaps they would not like their children to be called dropouts. My advice, do not paddle around the edges of a deep pool and claim how well you can swim.
Comment by Lefefooane on 21 September 2012:
Scru, once again you missed key issues. The miners demanded R12 500 not zim dollars. They have since got R11 078 Plus R2000 once off bonus. Your criticism has been overtaken by events. As I write the miners are back to work and the western imperialists have accepted to pay the miners. Still it amazes me how you always side with imperialists. The world has condemned the exploitation and abuse that happened in marikana. Only you and your zim editors found it strange that the miners demanded 12 500.
Comment by 'Mankete on 21 September 2012:
Lefefoane kea u tlatsa moo teng ke bile ke thatiselletsa ka hore, surely hard-labour in a platinum can not comparatively earn the same income as hard-labour in building a pig-sty. For starters the turnover either business makes per capita is distinctively different, and the Scru u advocate for a labourer in a platinum mine to earn less than 12gees only because the driver at your “intellectual” tabloid earns well under 3grand (regardless of the living cost in either country).
As for Litjobo people are paying sympathy where it is totaly unnecessary, ache! Thanks for the great read again Scru, and you should look into some local radio station’s presenter, called a “dj”, as it is this days, for reasons well beyond me. Always yapping on about “In South Africa this, in South Africa that,…and here at home…” very much like one with an aspiration yet to be fulfilled, the day she spends a day in South Africa all her dreams will have come true. But it has been long since I trashed my radio out of shear dissapointment more than annoyance because of her pathetic take on something she has learned from what she was told by a friend studying at one FET (or whatever they call it) college in “Bloem” as they say!
Comment by Lobengula on 21 September 2012:
Scru and your disciples; this is a free world, anyone is free to take their kid where they feel comfortable. I am a Mosotho man working in South Africa, I own property in South Africa, and for me it is financially sensible to have my kids schooled in South Africa. There are two tiers of basic education in South Africa, private and public. Besides; even if their basic education is crap; kids have better chance of being accepted into universities and colleges here. If you so much hate anything that is South African, how come you do not say anything about Basotho children falling over themselves to go to South African Universities? There are a lot of important issues for you to address about the welfare of Basotho and the development of the state but this one is just pure jealously and cheap gossip that is synonymous with brainless people and I never imagined that you Scru fall into that bracket!
Comment by Lefefooane on 21 September 2012:
On Litjobo I agree with you. On education standard I differ. Everything in zim collapsed. It would defy logic if there is any institution that survived the spiral economic down turn in zim. Remember in zim a billion zim dollars cant buy a loaf of bread. Inflation is a trillion percent. Then how can education survive such an economic scare? On nul I agree but you always seem one sided.
Comment by Thapelo on 21 September 2012:
Paying NUL staff their outstanding salaries will not be illegal and scandalous. It may appear so to people who lack information such as you Scru. For starters, NUL staff were on strike for just 7 days of October 2011 not for 3 months and there are facts to prove it. I don’t know where your legal expertise comes from. LUTARU did not shut NUL for 3 months but siverts, monyamane and the previous devilish government did just as a ploy to punish staff with no pay for 3 months and try to break their morale. They failed because justice and goodwill will always rein over evil intentions.
It is now up to the courts of law to prove who the devils are in this saga. Thank God the mafia government is no more. Soon the truth will rise above all these evil intentions.
Comment by jojo on 21 September 2012:
@lobengula,after seeing so much sense in your previous comments i never thought you could use the word jealous to describe those who think South Africa’s education is not so good. I dont see the point of you even mentioning yourself as an example because you case is clear. You work in SA so it makes sense for your kids to be there with you. The bit about you owning property there is unnecessary gloating that add no value to your argument. Scru’s comment is based on a report and she provides the website for it. Go read. Is it “pure jealous and cheap gossip” to mention something from a credible report?
Comment by Robert on 21 September 2012:
@Lefs, your statement about Zim shows that you know very little about it. Either that or you simply dont care about facts on the ground. Not everything in zim collapsed during the crisis my dear. Things slowed down but they did not coLlapse.The industry continued working, schools remained opened and the infrastracture remained strong. That is why it was easy to start the recovery. I thkink scru’s comments are based on an international report and not her opinion. It will be good to look at that report.
It will be good for you to ask those students lesotho is sending to zim to study medicine how things are that side. Or I can take you there. Perhaps your contempt for zim and the zim editors at lestimes will subside.
Comment by Lobengula on 21 September 2012:
@Jojo;it does not matter whether the parent who sends the child to primary school in South Africa works there or not; what matters is the decision the parent makes for the child and does not concern scru or you or me. Scru introduction to the topic does not quote any source but a personal perspective which to me is based on pure jealously and ho rata litaba tsa batho. I have a right to “gloat” about what I own (if giving a practical example is gloating). I know a lot of Basotho who work in South Africa as Domestic Helpers and their husbands work for building contractors. For these families who do not earn much it is more viable to have their children closer to them and in a long run it will benefit the kids. Let me “gloat” again for your benefit Jojo. I send my kids to private school and I am sure some Basotho who can afford do the same sending their kids to stay with family and friends for the sake of a better future. The bottom line is the free world and the free movement of the people and scru better use her resources to fruitful use than jelously against those who can access better resource for themselves and their families elsewhere.
Comment by TLP on 21 September 2012:
I really dont agree to those findings because i dont know they were based on what,Yes i do i agree that sometimes we as Basotho feel South Africa is more superior than Lesotho even on non existing issues.I have been fortunate to attend schools in both parts of SA and Lesotho where i did primary in RSA and High Scholl and in reallity most of the things which i did at Form A(one) were revision except maybe Bookeeping and Commerce which was new to me,As for Biology,Science & Maths honestly most of the stuff i had done it @ Grade 6 or 7,And for your info after passing my COSC with 2nd Class i cudnt be admitted at any SA universities since i did O levels,so i had to do Matric,and when it came to Maths and Science i struggled as much as i managed to pass them with good results eg I was only exposed to things like Logarithms,Cosine Rule(we only did sine rule),prooving of theorems, @ Matric.The only subject which i felt was revision and boring to me was English that i fully agree their standard is equivalent to Form C, as for the other subject i battled.Again i’ve seen lot of students coming from Lesotho to South Africa really battling where in certain cases they had to be demoted,i understand it cud be things like new enviroment which disturbs them,So reaaly i dont buy that arguement,Yes sometyms we Basotho feel inferior when we r facing our South African counterparts,but that doesnt mean we must ignore some of the good South Africa has,and Lastly why is COSCO Levels rated lower than Matric if their Education is so low,and Most of the Matriculants they dont struggle getting admission in some Universities overseas,or is it the so called Black universities,
i think next scrutator will come and tell us tha the Lesotho CAs r better than SA CAs.
Comment by Joo on 21 September 2012:
@Lobengula, Iam shocked that you can lie like that just to score a cheap point. If you read Scru’s article you would have seen that she referred to the “The Global Competitiveness Report recently released by the World Economic Forum (ww.weforum.org.gcr)”. Lobengula, that report is on the internet for free. It has over 500 pages that deal with many other issues. Scru just opted to deal with the section that talks about education. So your claim that “Scru introduction to the topic does not quote any source but a personal perspective which to me is based on pure jealously and ho rata litaba tsa batho” is a blatant lie. The reference is on sentence number 8 of the article. I just hope that this was a mistake on your part and not a deliberate lie.
Comment by kompi on 21 September 2012:
Scrutator u ntenela ho emela batho babang ba bue u be u tla morao ho etsa eka ke wena mon’ga research. On the face of it an ordinary south african communicates better than a lesotho graduate. Check talk forums if you doubt that.
Comment by Lobengula on 21 September 2012:
@TLP; thanks for a very enlightening comment based on a practical personal experience. I don’t know if I am in a boxing match of “words” with a person called jOJO who has miraculously turned into JOO like a chameleon. Either way; I will not stoop to your level JOO and call you names. I am not a politician and therefore I have no points to score. @ JOO (the one who calls me a liar) there are two scenarios: 1. Your parents did a very poor job grooming you; 2. You were dropped on your head at infancy resulting in brain damage; 3. Your bad habit of insulting people you do not even know is a result of running with a wrong crowd. Let me go back to the issue at hand. SCRUs second sentence says “it is not suprising that there are people who still think everything from across the border is superior.” She further goes on to say “the inferiority of Lesothos primary education only exists in the heads of self hating Basotho who seem obsessed with foreign things.” What is there in our country that is not foreign? Parents do not research some half surveyed data to make decisions about their kids but they rely on gut feeling and the suitability of such arrangement to their family lives. My comments are basically centered around SCRUs introduction which is her personal opinion. I for one am a very proud Lejapere who is not threatened by any nationality but my pride will not stop me from going elsewhere to better the lives of my family; even if I have to go to Afganistan to fullfill this purpose.
Comment by Student on 21 September 2012:
how can Lesotho education be better if all what people are crying about is salaries and not doing thier jobs at the end of the day.. after the the salaries are raised you will be crying about another thing else… Lesotho should take CubaZ way of doing things (money later lets look at progress first) these people here live too see their country moving forward against great powers… i know its hard but just imagine if we forget the salaries first and teach children one day they will uprise against all our problems like Cuba did its not wrong to follow our footsteps of people who made it
Comment by Joo on 21 September 2012:
@Lobengula,
Did you even read the report that she refers to. Her opinion is based on that report. You must read that report instead of just throwing tantrums like a kid.
You are taking issue with one or two lines that are based on a report done by a credible organization.
Scrutator proffers an opinion and then supports it with a report.
You should also do the same instead of throwing around unsubstantiated claims.
So far you have not said anything substantiated to challenge her opinion.
I find your attempt to insult me using some old pathetic insults quite laughable. The head dropping insult is no longer really funny.
It’s used by unoriginal people who thrive on clichés and shouting down those that have a different view.
Your attempt to analyse how I was raised on the basis of what I said in response to your rumbling is also silly and childish. Notice that I am not saying you are silly or childish but your insults are.
It seems you are so obsessed with yourself that you can’t see it when you become hypocritical. You accuse me of insulting you yet you go ahead to do the same. In your first post you used the word “brainless” to describe some people.
You like clichés neh!
You start your insults on me by saying “Either way I will not stoop to your level JOO and call you names”. Then you go on to insult me. Clichés, clichés, clichés.
Can’t you see that by going on to insult me and insinuating that my mother did a bad job of raising me you are stooping even lower.
Any man who takes every slight opportunity to brag about what he owns is probably lying or exaggerating. I have not seen men who own real things worthy something using a newspaper website to gloat about them.
You are just misdirected Lobengula.
Comment by Lobengula on 21 September 2012:
@ JOO; is it an insult to tell the obvious that you were not raised properly? You would not label me a LIAR if you care so much about being insulted.If there was something I said that you did not understand you we supposed to say so politely instead of calling me a liar. My giving an example of why I have my kids studying in RSA was to give a practical example and as I have said; no parent researches some data from some website to make decisions about their lives or those of their children. I am against SCRUs perception that people who take their kids to study elsewhere other than Lesotho are self hating and feel inferior; parents who do so are driven by socio economic factors; that include migration; politics; employment; education and simple survival needs. I asked a question; what is not foreign in Lesotho if SCRU thinks we are obsessed with anything foreign? Lesotho has always been a big supplier of labour to South Africa and some Basotho working in South Africa have permanent residence and they have decided to settle there with their kids. Some kids have lost their parents in Lesotho due to the scourge of Aids and for their relatives who have settled in South Africa it is better to have the kids there rather than financially support them in absentia.
Comment by Lefefooane on 22 September 2012:
@TLP, a lot of what u said is true. Especially on matric maths. Our cosc first class cant answer even a single matric maths question not because our guy is stupid but because of the low level of our colonial cosc. For instance a matric maths student can do logs, deferiation, double integrals etc. This staff is covered at nul so called common first year. Reason being the cambride cosc is far lower than the oxford a levels. Logically, though our CA standard is far lower than the CA(SA) standard. Our CAs are often found in numerical subjects like Finance, Options, swaps etc. No wonder most of our CAs choose the auditing stream as opposed to finance. They are normally not even allowed to practise in RSA. SAICA is way too advanced. Besides for one to sit for saica part one exams one needs south african Bcom honours. The maths is way too advanced. Even when they do articles in RSA they get attached at very big auditing firms like Kpmg, Diolette etc while our cas get attached at maybe Lethula and assocrates. The south african CAs get practise at the JSE listed firms while our CA gets exposed to a firms listed in Maseru stock exchange. Thus our cas strugle to appreciate the MBA content especially numerics. The writing skills of our CAs are far below par simply because for one to enrol for SAICA part one he needs a university honours degree. Our standard is far lower than rsa due to our colonial cosc.
Comment by Lobengula on 22 September 2012:
@ Lefefooane; even though a lot of what you say sounds like Chinese Mandarin to a layman like me; but your comment gives clear examples which gives one an actual perspective of reality. One example is that of radio comparisons in Lesotho and RSA. If one listens to a current affairs program of Leseli FM and that of Radio Lesotho; there is a very big difference in terms of reporting and the general presentation of news. Our announcers can even read the Sesotho language properly let alone the English language. Most of these announcers have gone through the same system of township schools which are said to be below standard. Radio Lesotho’s presenters have no depth; they don’t research their stories and they do not know how to handle phone ins. Going back to SCRUs piece; it is ironic that she calls NULs lecturers high school teachers but she goes on to sing praises for our primary education which is the foundation of everything to do with education. As I said; our pride as Basotho should not blind us to the obvious; that our general standards as a country are far below par. It is like an alcoholic who accepts his or her problem thereafter work in correcting what is wrong. Lastly, the personal experiences of people like that of TLP and the educational comment by Lefefooane are the best ways to gauge the reality; because there are many factors about the so called surveys and researches that we do not know that can influence the actual reality on the ground.
Comment by Setho se khabane on 22 September 2012:
Scru…economists li re;holding all other things constant(Ceteris paribus),people who work in risky/in unfavourable conditions will earn higher wages/salaries than those who work in favourable conditions!So Marikana miners deserve dt 12500,regardless of their educational background!You’l find this in Lypsey&Crystal books&on other economists collections!
Comment by Moeti on 23 September 2012:
Stop worrying about what happens in South Africa and focus on how to make Lesotho a much better country.Being number a hundred and something is nothing to boast about for a country than earns high marks on
the literacy rates of its women.Worry about maintaining that and not about how you are slightly better than South Africa in mediocrity. Being number 107 instead of 143 does not say much.It says mediocre.
Comment by Mehau on 23 September 2012:
Lesotho years independence and black rule 1966 to 2012.
South Africa years of independence and black rule 1994 to 2012
So why the comparison at all .Lesotho has had a head start and yet it the this reporter is proud of being better than South Africa in being terrible.We are less terrible than them….reason for celebration.
Why not look the number 1 and what that nation is doing?
Comment by nakeli on 23 September 2012:
We are not better than them. Their Grade 10 maths is higher than COSC level maths. As pointed above leForm E cannot attempt a matric paper. Anyway Scru talks about primary education. Again leForm B le ka tlontlolloa ke a Grade 7 maths paper ea SA.
Comment by mohlalefi on 24 September 2012:
Lumelang; “Ngoana mosotho ka sebele.”
Lehae la rona ke lana;
Ho se ho fihlile baheso.
Mpolelleng,na le sa le Hole?
Comment by mohlalefi on 24 September 2012:
Lumelang; “Ngoana mosotho ka sebele.”
Lehae la rona ke lena;
Ho se ho fihlile baheso.
Mpolelleng,na le sa le Hole?
Comment by Gaddafi on 24 September 2012:
@Nakeli
And majority of SA matric students are getting school leaving certificates which is equivalent to GCE, that means majority of SA matric students are failing. Linaheng tsena tsa SADC ke hlompha matric ea Zimbabwe feela hobane ke quality. Ehlile matric ea RSA hase quality joalokaha u nahana. You have just been brain washed long time ago that everything from RSA is better than anything here in Africa. During apartheid era, black South Africans were being brain washed and told by the boers that they are smart and better than other Africans in this continent, that is the reason even today, black South Africans hate and undermine fellow Africans in this continent.
Ha!ha!ha! it seems some of Basotho having narrow-mind, still believe everything from RSA is great. Maybe its the reason we see shops like shoprite importing fruits & vegetables of very poor quality from RSA today because they think everything from RSA is better even when they export rubbish into our country. You think like a stupid human. We don’t compare curriculum here, we talk about the quality of education. I cannot send my child into RSA to write that SA matric because I don’t like their education system. The so-called white universities do offer a quality education, thats why pupils from black townships with matric are struggling at that varsities and they take longer time to cope with the situation because of their low matric standard. Those Africans with O’levels or A’levels cope faster than SA matric students mostly.
Comment by Gaddafi on 24 September 2012:
@Lefefooane
Ehlile banna bao ba mine oa marikana ba ekelelitsoe ka 20%. Haele M12 500 eona haba e fumana hohang, mine management ba itse haba na khona keketso e kaalo hohang ha e eo. Batla 20% ea R4 500 hore na ke bokae. Le ‘na ke ne ke maketse haba re ba batla ho khola R12 500 ho tloha ho R4 500. Hana ke company efe e ka ekeletsang motho ka 300% or more lefats’eng? Che, ba ne ba nahana mehlolo le bona joale. Batho ba South Africa ba botsoa ho sebetsa empa ba batla chelete e ngatahali fela ba hanne le ho kena sekolo. Hana ke mang lefats’eng ea ka u patalang R12 500 fela u sa tsebe le ho ngola lebitso la hau? Hore u fumane chelete e ngata, u tlameha ho qala ka ho kena sekolo pele hobane chelete ha e fanoe mahala.
Comment by Gaddafi on 24 September 2012:
@Lobengula
Ehlile Scru re tsebile hore u utloisitse ba bangata ba lona ba sebetsang ka faked IDs RSA mono bohloko. Aku utloe ha u qala u tloha u re Scru o ngolisoa litaba tsena ke jealous. Ehlile batho ba lumelang haholo ho RSA le rata haholo hore lea moneloa ke Basotho ba lulang le ho sebetsa Lesotho mona hobane le lumela hore Basotho ba lulang Lesotho ba fats’e lona le holimo ka baka la ho sebetsa le ho lula RSA. Hana ke kae moo Scru a itseng o le laela hore le se kenye bana ba lona likolo RSA?
U sotha litaba ka boomo hobane ka kelellong eno ea hau u tella Basotho le Lesotho lena le u rutileng ka likhafa tsa mafutsana a Lesotho. Mona ha hothoe le se ise bana ba lona RSA, fela ho buuoa ka report ea machaba e sebetsanang le ratings tsa linaha ka thuto U utloa u nyonya hore ebe Lesotho le hlaha kaholima RSA ratings tseo hobane u le khella fats’e mosotho ea sa ipatleng? Li-university tsa RSA tsona re li kene ebile le bana ba rona ha ho hlokahala re tla ba isa ba ntse ba entse high school Lesotho mona ba ntse ba li kena. Ke entse high school Lesotho mona ‘na, ke ntse ke ithutile li-universitying tsa makhooa RSA mono, ha ho na letho le ileng la nthibela.
Le rata hampe ho bua mashano a hore hee hee ngoana ha a nkuoe RSA vaersities haa entse COSC. ‘Na ke entse COSC ‘me ke qetile likolong tseo tsa ka moo thutong e phahameng. Ke kene le bona bana ba RSA, ha kea bona mohlolo oa letho ka bona, ho feta mona bana ba Africa bo Zimbabwe, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya le linaheng tse ling tsa Africa, ke bona bao ke neng ke bona ba ipabola haholo lithutong ba hlola hole oona ma-South Africa ana ao le reng matric ea bona e na le mehlolohali mona Africa. Bothata ba lona Basotho ba sebetsang RSA le rata hampe hore lea moneloa ke Basotho ba sebetsang Lesotho mona. Kea ipotsa hore na le moneloa ka eng hobane ha le phelisi Basotho ba sebetsang Lesotho moo ka letho? Ka tsona lisalary tse nyane tsena re ntse re khona ho ikahela matlo, re reka likoloi joaloka lona ba sebetsang RSA. Hare robale le tlala leka letsatsi, bana ba rona ba kena likolo joaloka ba lona. Le bua joalokaha eka RSA mono le phela naheng e ruileng le ho feta USA. Ekare le pataloa lisalry tse holimo haholo ho feta tsa batho bohle lefats’eng. Ke hona ho hlaha naheng e futsanehileng ho le tlatsang ka boikhohomoso ha le fumane makhulo a matala? Ke ka hona le iponang eka le phahametse Basotho ba sebetsang Lesotho? Motho e mong le e mong o na le khetho ea hore na u sebetsa kae lefats’eng. Hase Basotho bohle ba batlang ho sebetsa RSA hle. Makhulo ano a matala ao uena u a bonang, ‘na nkeke ka a bona hobane ke sena interest ea ho sebetsa naheng ea balichaba. Pusong ea ANC, RSA e lahlehetsoe ke boleng hampe ‘me ha e sa khalleha joaloka nakong ea puso ea maburu moo economy ea teng e neng e hlamatseha, batho ba le mongobo kaofela, eseng hona joale ma-South Africa a le maputsoa-putsoa hakana, ba lapile habohloko ho ba baloang ka limillion ba sotlehileng habohloko hakana. Tlohela ho nahana hore batho ba mona haba hlahisa maikutlo ka RSA e seng e sotlehile hakana, mebila ele likoti-koti fela bo Free state mona, Eastern Cape, North West, Mpumalanga le liprovincing tse ling.
Comment by Gaddafi on 24 September 2012:
@Lobengula
“Some kids have lost their parents in Lesotho due to the scourge of Aids and for their relatives who have settled in South Africa it is better to have the kids there rather than financially support them in absentia”.
You continue insulting and undermining Basotho. According to you, South African kids have not lost their parents in RSA to the scourge of AIDS? Really you are stupid narrow-minded human I have ever seen. If Lesotho kids have lost their parents through AIDS, that means your close relatives’ kids back here in Lesotho have also lost their parents due to the scourge of AIDS.
Even there in RSA, you yourself can be infected and affected by AIDS and die, then your kids might become desperate like other kids who never volunteered or chose to lose their parents this pandemic. You talk too much because you think you much better than anyone living and working in Lesotho. Shame on you narrow-minded lobengula. We see you wished to be a zulu with lobengula name. Shame!!!
Comment by Gaddafi on 24 September 2012:
@Nakeli
Also an SA matric pupil cannot attempt a COSC paper. He/She can fail with distinction. Re kene le bona ma-South Africa Lesotho mona ba fihla ba ntse ba qalile habo bona moo, ha rea bona ho phahama hona hoo le ho bolelisang. Ba sa kenang le bona ke bona ba utloang ka likelellong tsa bona hore ma-RSA a ba phahametse. SA Matric e ts’osa uena hobane u hlooho e thata, athe rona ba bang rea tseba hore ha e ts’ose joalokaha u nahana.
Comment by Lefefooane on 24 September 2012:
@Gaddafi, you seem to be stuck in the mist of stupidity and ignorance. If you are not aware that the matric mathematics carriculum is what is done at nul common science first year then I will not waste my time on you. The matric maths include logarithms, natural logs, differentiation, double integrations and a bit of differential equations. Here we are not comparing individual student ability but the curriculum. Stupidly you never even wonder why a degree takes three years in RSA yet it takes four years here. Ke kopa u itsele kelello. Straight from matric a students fits into Engineering degree while a cosc will need to do the Oxford A levels as opposed to the Cambridge O levels that we do here. On Marikana you seem to have again been left behind. Those miners have since got R11 000 rands instead of R12 500. That is a dramatic significance and needs to be applauded. They even managed to be awarded a once off R2000 while the operators will get R13 000. Bothata ba hau ke ho se bale.
Comment by Lefefooane on 24 September 2012:
I still insist there is no way Zimbabwe could maintain the same education levels amist that strange, record breaking economic downturn. Teachers and students went extremely hungry inZimbabwe in the past ten years so howcould we be made to beleive that the education stayed intact. No ways. To pay a R500 school fees one needed two wheel barrows full of Zim dollars. Nothing was working in Zim. From healthcare to finace to education simply becasue they had a 1 000 0000 0000 0000 % inflation. In some instance the inflation was 1 septerion percent, and stupidly one clown wants to assure us the education was not affected by such a hyperinflation. N ways. Ha re bana. Even teachers stopped teaching because they could not be paid salaries and they resorted to selling brooms in countries as far as Lesotho. Then you who remained in Zim when half that population is in diaspora selling brooms some practicing as teachers in South Africa. Ha re bana. Yes during the times of Ian Smith the Rhodesian education was OK. Not now.
Comment by Lefefooane on 24 September 2012:
For one to mislead us on south african education leaves a lot to be desired. Some facts about south african educatio I will dwell on Engineering and mediceine.
On Engineering, the worlds deepest mine is the Western deep levels number 3 is 3.9 km deep. Done by Soutb Africans through this so called low education that we are told by one scrutator. Nxa. Even those chilian Miners who were trapped for weeks under ground in Chile were to be rescure by Maria and Roberts Engineers from south Africa. World breaking engineering from south Africa.
On medicine, the worlds first human heart transplant was done there in Capre town Groote Schuur hospital by a Christiaan Neethling Barnard a south african. Then suddenly a clown wants to brain wash us by new teachings of low south african education.
Besides, how could the south africans be able to drive such a massive economy with this so called low education? Ha re re tloheleng mepoto hle banna. Thuto eno ea kamono e maemong a phahameng. Forget about Zimbabwe. Nothing ground breaking be it in research or any advancement in farming ever came out of Zim. Lesotho lona le be le thole.
Comment by Lefefooane on 24 September 2012:
Longest continuous enclosed aqueduct in the southern hemisphere (22.5 m2 cross section) in Africa is in south africa built by south african Engineers. Currently the South African company is building the longests tunnel in Hongkong. The same company that built the Gautrain tunnel and the Hugeenout tunnel in Gauteng and Western cape respectively. Now some some clown preaches that the Zim maths and science edu is higher. Nxa.
Comment by ntai on 24 September 2012:
@Lefefs hele butle boo!!!
Comment by Mpule on 24 September 2012:
@Lefefooane, I salute you. I can imagine where we would be by reading the crap on this column had it not been because ur defiance. I bought the sowetan newspaper today loked at the matrics insertion. Immidiately the maths looked too complex for cosc student. Even the chemistry the matrics solve the ksp and the ideal gas law. They even do a bit of organic chem. Jo. Those guys are serious. Tell me who did the katse muela trans caledon tunnel? Your comparison of CAs is such an opener. As an engineer myself I encountered a number of Lesotho CAs in my MBA class. A lot of them had amazingly low level of maths. It seemed they never did real maths beyond cosc. They struggled in economics. All of them dismally failed finance modules. Come research it was a disaster. No writing skills at all. Lesotho needs to up its game for sure we cant go on like this. Keep the engineering news coming. I enjoy.
Comment by nakeli on 24 September 2012:
Mr or Mrs Gaddafi o ipitsang. Read all my posts here. First up on the nature of the survey Scru is quoting. Then curriculums and outcomes. On outcomes bana ba feila both in Lesotho & SA. But curriculum statement ea SA is more advanced than ea Lesotho. You obviously haven’t compared them. I have. Grade 10 maths is higher than COSC maths, I dare repeat. Tlohela ho itlontlolla. Ha o batla hoba moetsana oa Scrutator go ahead but ha re bana. Bala taba tsa Lefefooane & be informed.
Comment by Lefefooane on 24 September 2012:
@mpule, thank you for your observation. @nakeli, thank you for bringing more light here. @Ghaddafi, we are not comparing matric students and cosc students here. Rather, we are comparing the two carricula. It is important u study the matric carriculum. For instance the matric maths carriculum has logarithms and basic calculus while cosc does not come close. The trigonometric ratios covered in cosc are only sine and cosine while matric carriculum include tangents as sine divided by cosine. Beware we talk carriculum here and not students. On nul and Lesotho times I smell corruption. Notably nul ONLY advertises in Lesotho times. I will alert cde Tom Thabane and DCEO. A thorough investigation is needed on the nature of the relationship btn Lesotho times, and nul management. Our taxes are being used irregularly here. I am watching the space and doing own investigation..
Comment by Moeti on 25 September 2012:
Scrutator I enjoy your articles very much and I believe you are adding value to this paper, however when you write a non fiction article like this one please do your research and study it thoroughly before you publish. The ranking for Primary Schools you are reffering to is not something you should rely on because it is based mostly on public schools. South Africa has the worst public primary schools and also has the best private primary schools and most Basotho if not all when they take their kids to South African Primary schools it will be those top schools, your St Mary’s, St Albans, Hilton College, Crawfords, Montessori etc. These schools exclude those American and British schools based in South Africa, so Basotho ba Lesotho when they want value for their money they take thier kids to these schools so your ranking only applies to the disadvantaged South Africans who must go likolong tsa lekeishini moo o tla fumana ka nako ea class ‘m’e miss a ntse a loha hlooho ke bana ba sekolo.
Comment by Lobengula on 25 September 2012:
Ao che e mong ke enoa ho thoe ke Gaddafi! E re ke mo arabele ke seke ka mo phoqa.Gaddafi I work in South Africa with a work permit; I DO NOT HAVE A FAKE ID; I value my Lesotho citizenship. The reason why I call myself Lobengula is because on my Ndebele heritage; Ke Letebele oeso. As for being educated with likhafa tsa Basotho haho joalo oeso, nna ha ke ea isoa sekolong ke manpower. You seem to be so fired up and in the process you missed a lot on my comments about SCRUs column. By talking about kids affected by HIV and AIDS, I was just giving one of the reasons why Basotho kids are taken to study in South Africa by relatives; and this does not imply that there is no AIDS in South Africa. About this so called credible report I said; no parent researches some info from the internet to make decisions about their lives and their families. I think Lefefooane and other intellectuals have disected this issue and tried to give clarity on this matter and for me to try otherwise will be a waste of time to people like you Gaddafi and your comrades in arms. I have already given my perspective on my comments above and I have nothing more to offer. Lastly; for your information, my working in South Africa does not make me superior to anyone and please; play the ball not the man.
Comment by TLP on 25 September 2012:
@ Lefefoane
You have said a mouthfull,I fully concur
@ Moeti i tend to disagree with you regarding the issue of Public Schools(mostly those in the location) in SA,Yes their standard is low but I still mantain is higher than that of Lesotho primary schools,the other thing the public schools in RSA are divided into four categories(Quintiles) they r not rated the same, e.g u have those schools where they dont pay any school fees(mostly in the rural areas and farms),and those who pay a certain amount/fee e.g 400 per annum (mostly in the township and urban areas),and you have the the upper ones which are mostly former model c schools(more like the English Mediums in Lesotho)and guess what these ones they compete very well with private schools,so if u say public schools dont generalize,
I’ve said it earlier not everything in SA is better than that of their African counterparts but we must acknowledge where SA is doing well, for instance the Australian n Canadian Accounting bodies have followed the SAICA in terms of CA training, i.e u’ll need a CTA/Bcomm ACounting Honours before u can attempt the board exams(even if u have served ur articles,
And when it comes to deep level mining we know SA excell, and they are run(managed) by mostly people who attended the public schools,
For ur Info the CEO’s of the top 100 companies listed on JSE to public schools bar Ackerman of Pick n Pay who went to a private school,so saying the whole public education school in SA is worse than Lesotho i dont agree with it,
Lesotho must start developing an education model which will align itself to the neeeds of the economy,or like it was indicated earlier to introduce A levels at High School,
i.e. If you look at Mining Engineering,Geology, minining related courses,etc South Africa has the best Universities in the world because mining contributes about a 15% of the country’s GDP thus they invested into that area(mining research).Thats what my country Lesotho should do,look at the needs of the economy,
And some of you are praising the white regime in SA,where as if you read most of the journals/articles commenting about the current shortage of skill in SA esp mining and ICT,they attribute that to Apartheied,because apartheid was meant to serve the few so now SA is part of the global world n they cant compete with countries like China and Australia when it comes to production outputs, and guess what! the Authors of those journals are white people,again SA is doing something to address that problem thus they introduced Certificates of Competency for experienced people who never went to institutions of Higher Learning i.e. Colleges,University of Technology and Universities,
So Lesotho must adress its problem and stop benchmarking itself against RSA>
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
Have Rhodesians alias zimbaaweans produced any ground breaking research? No, nothing. The only things zimbabwe is known of is hyperinflation, being the only country where every body is a trillionare. On the production side they are good at producing brooms and mops. Wheather one likes it or not the matric maths is advanced than the cosc maths. A cosc maths gradute cant even be admitted to university engineering course. Maybe in arts and social science disciplines. Tlohelang ho re phopa marena. The reason nul offers the common first year is to bridge the gap between our cosc and varsity.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 25 September 2012:
@Lefefooane, you are a liar. Le uena u qetoa ke hose bale. Basebetsi ba marikana re utloile litabeng hore na ba nyolletsoe ka bokae, ‘me ba tlilo khola bokae. Haba tlo khola M11 000 le 13000 u leshano hle monna hare bana. Tloha mona.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 25 September 2012:
@Lefefooane, Murray and Roberts ke company ea United Kingdom ‘me e sebeletsoa ke manyesemane a mangata ao e neng ele karolo ea ba pholositseng batho mane Chile. Ke utloa u ntse u bua ka lintho tsa maburu, mesebetsi le likatleho tsa bona tseo ba li entseng RSA. Ke hlile ke bonts’itse pele hore thuto ea likolo tseo e neng ele tsa maburu/makhooa fela pele, thuto ea tsona e boemong bo phahameng.
Matric e holimo ea RSA kea private e ngolisong ke matriculation board, empa haele matric ea ‘muso e ngoloang ke 90% ea likolo tsa RSA eona kea low quality, u bua kapa u thotse. Exam ea ‘muso naheng eno e ngoloa ke likolo tsa bana ba batho ba bats’o bao eleng majority naheng eno, ‘me li-ratings li entsoe, kahoo majority e tla nne ebe kaholimo. Ehlile likolo tsa makeshining tsona ke ntholisele ha ho thuto mono.
Maburu ba ntse ba sebetsa hantle joaloka makhooa a mose, ke bao ba ahile infrastructure eo batho ba bats’o ba neng ba keke ba e aha hoja RSA e qaliloe ho busoa ke bona. Ke ka hona ba hlolehang le ho lokisa mebila e metle e thata eo maburu a ileng a e aha nakong ea puso ea bona. Motho e mots’o o emetse hore mebila ea RSA e senyehe hoo e ke keng ea hlotse e lokiseha, e be e tlamehe ho qaloa bocha.
Lintho tse quality RSA ke tse ntseng li le taolong ea maburu feela, tse taolong ea batho ba bats’o tsona ke lintholisele joaloka matric ena ea bona eo ba e chenchang bosiu le mots’eare moo ba batlang hore bana ba makeishining ba botsoa ba pase ka linaleli fela ba ntse ba le tala bare tlaka. Ke ka hona ba feilang hakana livarsity ba be ba drope. Nthong eo u e lebalang kea hore RSA ke naha e mafats’e a mabeli ele ‘ngoe. RSA ke naha ea 1st world eo eleng ea makhooa le 3rd world eo eleng ea batho ba bats’o, ‘me ntho’e ‘ngoe le e ‘ngoe e etsoa ka likarohano naheng eno. Ehlile Groote Schuur hospital ea Cape Town e etsa major operations for the world countries ke ‘nete. U kile oa utloa hothoe Baragwanath le Pelonomi li kile tsa etsa some major operation joaloka heart transplant or ho arola masea a kopaneng ka litho tsa ‘mele? Ke lipetlele tsa batho ba bats’o tseo, ‘me u keke oa utloa ho etsoa lipheko tsa boemo bo holimo joaloka tse etsoang ke lipetlele tsa maburu/makhooa.
Batho ba bats’o ba RSA ba ntse ba le selehe hantle joaloka Basotho le ma-Africa a mang continenteng ena. Lintho tsohle tsa bohlokoa RSA li ntse l;i etsoa ke makhooa, haele batho ba bats’o bona ba lipolotiking tse tletseng lintoa le lipolao koana joaloka Lesotho mona. Ke ka hona economy ea RSA e ntseng e ts’oeroe ke maburu/makhooa le kajeno hobane batho ba bats’o ba selehe ke lisenyi ke masholu ba senya. Ha maburu a ka tlohela ho ts’oara economy fela RSA, ho tla senyeha ‘me naha eno e tla ts’oana hantle le Zimbabwe e oe hampe moruong. Batho ba bats’o ba bobolu ke masholu ha ba busa linaha tsa habo bona, haba tsebe le ho etsa lintlafatso linaheng tsa habo bona. RSA e ntse e laoloa ke makhooa ka hohle hohle linthong tse ngata naheng eo, maANC a corrupt ana a laola lipolotiki tse cheap feela.
Lefefooane, u ke u utloe hothoe maburu a tseka hoea kenya bana ba bona likolo makeishining? Hobaneng haba sa ise bana ba bona likolong tse makeishining? Ke hobane thuto ea teng e fats’e, ha ho na thuto hohang moo. Ke ka hona batho ba bats’o ba lutseng ba loants’a maburu ba batla ho kena likolong tsa maburu ba siile tsa bona tse poor makeishining. Ke ka hona ANC e neng e qobelle liuniversity tsa makhooa hore li nke liuniversity tseo e neng ele tsa batho ba bats’o feela, hobane tseo thuto ea tsona ele fats’e. Batho ba bats’o ba itlhotse Africa mona.
Comment by Lobengula on 25 September 2012:
@ Mrs Nkozazana Zuma; you do not have to call someone a liar if you have a different view. Come up with facts to support your case.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 25 September 2012:
@TLP, oa seka bohloko le khale. U mosotho kapa u mosouth africa? Ke utloa u bolelisaka bobeterehali ba RSA, ‘me ntho’e qabolang kea hore ke utloa u bua ka maburu bo Ackerman. Ehlile RSA e ahiloe ke maburu, ke bona ba ahileng le li university tsena tseo u li bolelang bobetere. Ba kae ba heno ba bats’o? Bona ba ipabola ka botekatse le ho bolaeana koana lipolotiking tsa bona tse cheap. Maburu oona a sebelitse hobane lintlafatso tsohle tse RSA moo li entsoe ke maburu nakong ea puso ea bona. Ehlile liuniversity tsa makhooa RSA moo, thuto ea tsona ke quality, haele tsa batho ba bats’o tsona ke litoeroe fela, ke ka hona ANC e ileng ea qobella makhooa ho li nka hobane bona ba le selehe ba sa khone ho nyolla thuto ea tsona.
Maburu a sebelitse ke ka hona batho ba bats’o ba loanelang ho kena likolong tsa bona, fela ha ho na leburu le le leng le kileng la loanela hoea kena likolong tsa batho ba bats’o makeishining, esita makhooa a nyonya fela leha hothoe ba fuoa transfer ba ilo ruta likolong tsa batho ba bats’o makeishining, baa itokolla mosebetsing haba qobelloa ke education dept hoea ruta makeishining. Hobaneng? Ke papaling mono ha ho na thuto hohang!!!
Comment by Lobengula on 25 September 2012:
Joale taba ea hore Murray And Roberts ke company ea United Kingdom o enka kae Nkozazana Zuma. Ooe, a ke re bueng ka lintho tseo re li tsebang hle! Murray and Roberts ke company ea South Africa ka botlalo eo ho eona ho akaretsang li company tsena tlasa the holding company Murray And Roberts e listed JSE: Murray and Roberts Construction: Concor Holdings: ROCLA PIPES: UNITRANS. For your information Baragwanath Hospital is the biggest hospital in the southern hemisphere and there are a lot of complicated operations done there; there is a combination of nationalities working there as doctors including whites. There are also a lot of companies run by Africans in Lesotho and South Afric; eg Matekane Group of Companies; Nthane Brothers Lesotho Funeral Services in Lesotho; Shanduka; Mvelaphanda, Gijima in South Africa for example. So I am puzzled as to where you get a notion that Africans cannot partake in business.
Comment by thibos on 25 September 2012:
@ semenekane, dude stop being a Mr know all but do a little bit of research before craping on scu. Read reliable sources you fool; http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/cheers-as-marikana-strike-ends-1.1385967. No one is getting R12000 from lonmin but only a 22% increase. One more thing scurator said nothing about cosc or matric but only compared primary schools in lesotho and south Africa, pretty everyone knows including scurator that matric is better than cosc! stop hating on scu just bcos she has got different opinion from yours and your “perfect” government on sieverts issue!
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
@Nkosazana, I normally do not respond to half nods lit you. But regarding the marikana salaries I paste below an extract from mail and gurdian:
Strikers who gathered at a soccer pitch near the Marikana mine on Tuesday cheered when they were informed of the offer and said they would return to work on Thursday.
This increases their salaries to just over R11 000. Other workers will get a 2% increase on top of the 9% increase agreed upon earlier this year.
Source:http://mg.co.za/article/2012-09-18-lonmin-strikers-accept-22-pay-increase
Now, I leave it to the audience to judge as to who a fool who does not read is. Next time never respond to me as I am too busy ho qaea nete.
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
@Nkosazana, stop meddling in Engineeging affairs. Please stick to your theology and arts. Murray and Roberts is a South African company. I paste below an extract:
Murray & Roberts Holdings, Ltd. is a South African based construction contractor, located in Johannesburg, South Africa[3] and is listed on the JSE Securities Exchange. [4] Murray & Roberts is South Africa’s leading engineering, contracting and construction services company, with a primary focus on the resources-driven construction markets in industry & mining, oil & gas and power & energy in Africa, Middle East, Southeast Asia, Australasia and North and South America. The company offers civil, mechanical, electrical, mining and process engineering; general building and construction; materials supply and services to the construction industry; and management of concession operations. In addition to the many buildings, Murray & Roberts has been involved in the construction of the Gautrain railroad, the Medupi Power Station, the Manyuchi Dam, and the Cape Town Stadium.[5]
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_%26_Roberts
Half brains who never made a mark in Engineering should stop meddling in Engineering affairs. The best you should be querying is whether a certain literature author is US or Nigerian. Please stay way from engineering stuff. Or maybe you should focus on reading novels as you brain could not allow you handle much more challenging stuff. Nxa. Potoana tooe!!!
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
@Thibos, the salries at nmarikana were structured such that the operators would get R11 000 plus a R2000 bonus once off. Please guys stop wasting my time.
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
Moemish of the week goes to Nksazana the theologian!!! No brains.
Comment by Lefefooane on 25 September 2012:
@Nkposazana, lest you forget that maburu are south africans. Stupid clown.
Comment by Dave on 25 September 2012:
@Lefefooane, what have Zimbabweans done to you and your clan my brother? Why do you hate them like they have robbed you of your tinny manhood. Zimbabwean this, Zimbabweans that, when are you going to lay off those poor folks and concentrate on your own country? You have been at it for ages, its beginning to sound like you have personal issues with those people. What has your country invented? What research has it done? What does it make for itself? Your country is a village but you keep blasting another country for hyperinflation that is long gone. It doesnt help pointing finges at other people’s countries when yours is nothing but one big slam. This place is one gigantic slam, in case you iobvious lack of exposure had blinded you to this fact. The Murray & Roberts you refer to is also listed on the Zimbabwean Stock Exchange, employing Zimbabwean engineers. I bet you didnt know that because you hatred for Zimbabweans had clouded your thick brain. Is it not good enough that the lesotho Times, a Zim owned newspaper with Zim editors, is allowing you to insult Zimbabweans week in week out. What makes you think that a country like Lesotho is better that Zimbabwe.
What does this tinny own anywhere. The phone companies are foreign, the mines are foreign, the brewery is foreign, the airline is forieng, insurance companies are foreign, one of the two universities is foreign,the main garages are foreign, the big hotels are foreign, the retail shops (including spaza shops) are foreign, the banks are foreign, the textile factories are foreign. What is local Lefefooane here? What makes you think your country is better than Zimbabwe? Useless Mountains? Right now there are more than 100 basotho medical students being trained in Zimbabwe but for you that is not good enough. What you see is a country of broom sellers only. Most of the hospitals here are run by Zimbabweans but for you that is nothing but a country of broom sellers.
I will not blame you because your posts show that you are just a villager who likes talking about places he has never visited or researched about.
Comment by Shale on 25 September 2012:
@Lefs the issue of nul exclusively advertising in lesotho times and its sister publications started long before siverts came to nul. It was actually a political directive by the mccd regime. However it was not done in writing. As a way of sustaining this exclusivity lesotho times was to protect nul management from its self created enemies. On the politics side lesotho times was to run a media campagn against thabane and his ABC. unfortunately our taxes were used to sustain such corrupt transactions. Ha u ka sheba every issue of lestimes has something against lutaru or ABC. However I have been assured by ABC secretary general that they will soon finish their investigations. Watch the space.
Comment by Lerato on 25 September 2012:
@Shale,
Investigating what? Which other newspaper is there to advertise in apart from lesotho Times and Public Eye?
Do you think any serious company will advertise in the Informative? Silo? Mountain Star? The Spectator? o= Friday flier?
Come on guys, give me a break.
Drop the conspiracy theory and start investigating real thieves that stole from this country.
The ABC secretary general must find something more productive to do.
Nxa!
Comment by Lobengula on 26 September 2012:
@ Lefefooane; se ka senya litaba tse ntle tsa hao ka ho qetella ka litaba tse bosula o tla senya moelelo! @ DAVE my man I bet commenting on a Lesotho Newspaper and defending Zimbabwe you must be a Zimbabwean. What puzzles me are your guts to insult a proud people; my people about their country and call it a slum! How pathetic. There is a high possibility that you are in this “slum” working under the hospitality of the Basotho. Do not take our hospitality for stupidity and bite the hand that feeds you! You must not destress by being a fugitive by insulting us! Where have you seen a slum in Lesotho Shamwari? The useless mountains you are talking about gives us a lot of water that you drink DAVE; the water that keeps the people of Gauteng alive through exportation, the water that we use for electric generation. DAVE on these mountains we rear sheep that gives us wool of a highest quality! In these mountains we mine diamonds of a highest quality; diamonds that are as big as your skull! DAVE me don’t have malaria because of the cool breeze these mountains give us year round. We may be poor but we are a proud people! You will not find Basotho staying enmass in shacks like your people in the slums of Harare; the slums of Mutare! Please don’t make it our problem that Mugabe is enslaving your people and because you can not depose him you are a fugitive in Lesotho and we give you shelter and you come and insult us! Is it our problem that Mugabe has called his private military to mine the diamonds in Marange and called in the Chinese to help him loot the diamonds in Marange without the money going to your national treasury. Who is mining platinum in Zimbabwe; is it not AngloPlats? Do not come with your attitude here; is it not true Zimbabweans are selling brooms in Lesotho and lace in South Africa? DAVE I have seen Zimbabwean teachers looking after Batswana cattle in Mahalapye; Palapye; Shoshong; Nata ; Francistown in Botswana. Is it Basotho fault; do not come with your nonsense here or else go back to your country and join your countrymen in Mugabes slavery!
Comment by Lobengula on 26 September 2012:
@ DAVE; you so called prime minister who killed is wife; the dump prime minister that you Zimbo though would solve your slavery problem is busy now trying to compete with Jacob Zuma; yet unlike Zuma he does not want to marry all his women! He has a 24 year old in Bulawayo that he is supporting with a child; he paid lobola for one in Zim, he promised to marry one in Joburg that he left stranded and married one in Harare over the weekend. So my friend; your savior has other priorities in the moment and last on his list is to see you Zimbos rescued from Mugabes slavery. For now just know your time of selling brooms and lace in not going to end sooner; your brothers will continue looking after the Batswana cattle; the lucky ones will wash the plates in London and your brothers will continue dying in Afganistan fighting for the British Army; as for you DAVE enjoy our hospitality but please do not insult us.
Comment by mohlalefi on 26 September 2012:
Bra Lefefooana
Tsena tse Ntle le tsa bohlokooa li entsoe ke Mokhooa,Molemong oa bona.Likotsi tse hlahetsoeng ke Basotho le batho ba batso.’Na ke li bone, Mahlomola.Mafu a matsoafo,Amputees,Blindness.Hee!
Re theoa ka khoele mokoting Koana:
Lekhooa ha le na Botho;
Le hana motho a Tseba Mosebetsi.
A pase Focholo a pasa Mochini.
Bra Lefes, be easy on Black Folks.Ema le ‘Na Molimo o Teng.
Nka Tlooa ka theta Majooe!
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Lobengula, how pathetic of you to even insanuate that i would even think of coming to stay in your village. I would never stay in such a slum. Even you have left that slum. There are thousands of basotho who have left that country, its not a Zim issue alone. Iam surprised that you talk abouit hospitality in lesotho. Than place is inhospitable. Hahahaha, diamonds as big as my skull. What has lesotho got to show for those big diamonds? They were sold in London by the mining company, lesotho got nothing. For its pure water lesotho is getting small change from South Africa. It pumps water for companies, farmers and people in Gauteng while its people walk miles to get water. What stupidity is that?
I have told you that lesotho as a country has nothing of its own. The ground that is being mined of diamonds belongs to lesotho but the diamonds belong to Letseng which is controlled from London.
lesotho has nothing. All you have is Nthane and Matekane’s companies. The banks, insurance companies, hotels, mines, shops, telecoms are not yours. They will never be alone. Scru’s column was not about Zimbabwe but you still find a way of sneaking in the Zim issue on the comments. Concentrate on your problems. So what what if teachers are herdboys. I have talked to Basotho graduates who have not have been sitting at home five years after graduating. Those are the people you should worry about not Zimbabwean selling brooms or herding cattle. get you people jobs, get them to own thier economy and you must invest back home instead of bragging about the shacks you own in SA.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, stop insulting Basotho. Go back to your country because we don’t want to see your dirty face and testes in our country. Go back to your dirty so-called rich poor country. Even if you can praise how poor we are, we rae definitely not hungry, we have never gone to poor Zimbabwe to sell brooms or search for any sort of jobs in that collapsed country. You talk too much as if Zim is rich or own much. Do you own retailing sectors in that country? Is Pick’n pay, spar, woolworths, game, clicks and many more retailing firms yours Zimbabweans. South African boers own many many companies in Zimbabwe including tobacco farms where each boer own more than ten farms.
If you are rich Zimbabweans, what do you want in other peoples’ countries? Why are Zimbabweans residing in what you call a slum i.e Lesotho? What do you want in our country because we Basotho have never invited you Zimbabweans to come and reside in our country? You will never see us in the streets of Harare, Bulawayo, Mutare, and many other towns in your country. Even if we are that poor as you say, we will never go and sell brooms in Zimbabwe, we will never go and look for a job of any kind in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe is a country that one can think about in life. I can now see the reason why South Africans always give you a very hostile reception. It is because you are too stubborn. I now understand why South Africans are so xenophobic towards Zimbabweans. They are so disobedient and arrogant.
You Zims have scattered everywhere like beans in other peoples’ countries looking for jobs, selling materials and brooms, you must shut up your dirty and smelling mouth. You talk as if you are very rich, you praise country as if it is very rich in this region. Even if you see us as poor and useless people like you said, we are not begging food from Zimbabwe, we do not live in slums and shacks, we live in the houses. Dave, don’t ever cause us to become hostile or xenophobic towards Zimbabweans living and working here in Lesotho. We live in peace with Zimbaweans here and if you want us to you our inner attitude, we will do so. We cannot tolerate you to insult us for nothing. If you wanted to respond to Lefefooane’s criticism about your country, just refer your insults and criticism straight to Lefefooane alone because it is him who had criticised your country not the entire nation of Lesotho. Lesotho has never ever invited Zimbabweans to come and work and stay in this country. Its Zimbabweans who came into hiding in our country, fleeing their president Mugabe’s brutality in their own country. So, don’t talk as if Lesotho was so desperate that it needed your assistance. We don’t need your assistance because you have nothing that can help us.
If you are so proud telling us about your Zim’s so-called investments, I think you must be insane. Econet and Lesotho times are here to make business. Econet and Lestimes had applied for doing business in Lesotho. They were not invited by anyone. They came here because there were no business in their country due to political instability occurring in your country. Lesotho had been assisted by the Boers from South Africa with their investments. Its Boers who can talk too much but not you Zimbabweans in the first place. Dave if you now reside in Lesotho, I would advise you to back to your rich country Zimbabwe, just leave our poor slum country as you said. We don’t need you in this country. Go back to your dirty country, we have never invited you to come and stay in our country stupid man. The way you have insulted us, I’m sure you are residing in our country that you hate. Go back to your poor and collapsed country because you cannot see us in the streets of Zimbabwe, we are not interested to stay there. Go back and stay in your slums and shacks in the middle of Harare, Mutare, Bulawayo and in other poor rural areas around Zimbabwe. Shame on you poor Zimbabwean!!!
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave
“Zimbabwe is a country that one can think about in life”.
CORRECTION;
Zimbabwe is not a country that someone can think about.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave
“Zimbabwe is a country that one can think about in life”.
CORRECTION;
Zimbabwe is not a country that someone can think about in life.
Comment by Lobengula on 26 September 2012:
@ DAVE; you want to know what Lesotho has? Lesotho has its people; very proud people. Even if our graduates are sitting at home without a job; they are so proud that you will not find them in Manicaland selling brooms! You will not find them in Matebeleland herding cattle. We have a functioning political system. Our military is not a tool that is used to terrorize its people. My friend; I just feel sorry for your ignorance; we live in a global village, Basotho own a lot of businesses in Lesotho and elsewhere. It is not a sin to have foreigners investing in Lesotho. In fact Lesotho is different to Zimbabwe; Mugabe has officially sold your country to the Chinese; platinum very soon will be in the hands of Chinese; Tendai Biti does not have a clue as to what is happening to the revenue of diamonds that Mugabe and his military are stealing with the help of the Chinese! Yes, his military because it is not answerable to the people but only to him and the ZANUPF Politburo. We don’t have that nonsense here. If your country is so special and rich what are two million Zimbos doing in South Africa? Ag man; I don’t even know why I have to argue with a desperate fugitive who sleeps at the Methodist Church in central Johannesburg.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Lefefooane
Leha u ka nthohaka kamoo u ratang kaha u holisitsoe ka litlhapa heno, ha ho na mohla South Africa e tlaba naha ea heno. Ke utloa u kethetsa makoeba ebile u rarile methapo u re hloliea haholo ka South Africa joalokaha eka ba tla u patala, ‘me le ho u rata ba keke ba u rata le khale. Aku bone ka sebopeho sena sa hau sa ho rohaka le ho nyefola batho, u qetella joale u ntse u rohakisa Basotho ka lekoerekoere le nkhang mofufutso lena la Zimbabwe le ipitsang Dave. Aku utloe hore na sekatana sena se ntse se rohaka naha ena ea rona e mo fepang hakae ka baka la hau, u ntso re hloliea ka Zimbabwe e putsoa eno.
Che ha u na kelello hohang hle Lefefooane, kelello ea hau e ile le phuoane e oetseng u sa le lesea. U rata le ho nyefola batho ka mangolo a bona a thuto joalokaha eka law eno ea hau eo u buellang likoeta ke ntho’e betere lefats’eng mona fela u sena kelello hohang tjena. Engineering hase ntho’e kholo hohang fela ho ‘na. Seka nahana hore ha u bua ka motho ea entseng engineering sekolong, u bua ka ntho’e kholo ho ‘na, ho ‘na ha e kholo hohang, e kholo ho ba e entseng hobane e ratoa ke bona eseng ‘na. U ntse u hlapaola batho tjena hobane u re u sireletsa South Africa ena ea hau e u hlakantseng hlooho habohloko. Lintho tse ntle tseo maburu a li entseng RSA a ne a li etsetsa bona ele makhooa feela eseng motho e mots’o. Bana ba bats’o ba mpa ba qala ho utloa monate kamora lipuso tsena tsa bona tse ba hlotseng hore ba sebelise tsohle tseo e neng ele tsa makhooa feela. Batho ba bats’o ha ho letho leo ba tsebang ho iketsetsa lona, hohoholo ke lintoa le lipolaeano feela tseo ba li tsebang.
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Nkosazana Zuma, ignorance is not please my dear.Pick’n pay only has one franchise shop in Zimbabwe. The Biggest retail shop is OK Zimbabwe which is listed on the Zimbabwe S tock Exchange and owned by Zimbabweans. There is no Game in Zim. Clicks is owned by Miekles group which is listed on the ZSE and is owned by Zimbabweans. There is no Woolworths in Zimnabwe my dear. They have Truworths which also listed on the ZSE and Zimbabwean owned. The Spar shops there are franshises owned by Zimbabweans.
The big retailers are owned by Zimbabweans. That includes Edgars which is again listed on the ZSE.
Dont give me the crap about Econet comming here because there is no business in Zimbabwe. Its expansion not desperation Econet is in Zimbabwe, lesotho, South Africa, Nigeria, Botswana and other countries. Only silly people like you silly Zuma think that setting a business in another country means you are desperate for profit.
I dont live in Lesotho and will never live there. I have visited it for only business. Its interesting that people who have so many business opportunitoes in their country spend tonnes of time insulting a country so far away from them.
What is you beef with Zimbabwe. What have they stolen from you? Who has forced you to buy their brooms.
For you own information there are no shacks in Zim. No slums either. The point is that you have never read about or visited the country that is why you have lots of stereotypes about it.
I have been to lesotho more than five five and i know what a slum that place is.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Lefefooane, ere ke u joetse hee uena u leng proud haholo ka RSA le limaene tsa teng. Hoseng litabeng tsa Lesedi fm hothoe hona Marikana moo maeneng, mine management o re o tlilo khaola contract ea bona le Murray and Roberts hobane mine kamora keketso e ngata eo ea 20% ho basebetsi, ba keke ba khona ho tsoelapele le Murray and Roberts ‘me basebetsi ba fetang 1500 ba tlilo fokotsoa mosebetsing.
Ehlile boramesebetsi RSA ba re ha fela basebetsi ba lula ba teraeka ba re ba batla chelete e ngata, mesebetsi ea ba bang e tla tlameha ho fela hobane licompany li keke tsa khona ho lefa meputso e mengata bo sa amoheleheng. Joale eona RSA ena ea hau eo eleng molingoana oa hau, le eona e ntse e na le mathata joaloka linaha tsohle tsa Africa. Ha fela re ntse re mamela litaba tsa radio le TV, re keke ra thetsoa ke uena le khale Lefefooane.
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Lobengula, what cheap talk from a shallow one. hahaha. So you think your graduates are sitting at home because they are proud to remain in lesotho. They have no means to leave the country. They also too engrossed with their academic qualifications to think about other means of surviving. Those brrom seller are senting feeding their families in Zim while your graduates drink themselves senesless. Just accept that people like your hero Lefefooane is not justified to be insulting Zimbabweans every week. He must leave it alone. To be proud of one’s country doesnt mean you should be insulting other nationals every week. You brag that Zim has collapse but forget that to collapse you must be on a high level. lesotho hasnt collapse because there is nothing that can collapse. It has always been collapsed.
@Nkosazana Zuma You say “Even if you can praise how poor we are, we rae definitely not hungry”. Mxm. Give me a break you name thief. Your PM was begging for food aid recently from donors. You needs M1.4 billion to feed those 700000 people. Who delcared a state of emegency a month ago? Open you eyes.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, you can talk any rubbish that you like, you cannot deceive me. These are all South Africans franchises bought by Zimbabweans. Some of Basotho in this country that you hate have bought franchises of Pick’n pay, woolworths, kentucky and other retailing firms. They are still South Africans brands. I cannot listen to your lies.
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Nkosazana Zuma, Oh my God. Pick’n Pay in Lesotho is owned by a South Africa. Woolworths in lesotho is owned by a South African country. Truworths shop in Lesotho is now being sold back to Truworth SA.Dont tell me about small things like KFC please. Those Zimbabwean companies i have listed are not franhises. They are independently owned by Zimbabweans through shares on the Stock market. Do you know what a stock market is you name thieve. Ok, Edgars, Truworths in Zim are not franchises. Check how many companies are on the Zim stock exchange. More than 80% of them are locally owned, including Old Mutual.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, don’t ever visit my country again. We don’t want you here. Do your so-called business in your poor Zimbabwe not here. Why did you visit slum country five times? What do you want here because we can never visit poor Zimbabwe for business? You are not welcomed in my country. Don’t come again stupid idiot.Lesotho is very far from your poor country Zimbabwe, so don’t come. I think you will appreciate what you instill to Basotho. If you want us to hate Zimbabweans like as South Africans do, we will do it. If you want to see Basotho fighting and burning Zimbabweans alive like as South Africans did in 2008, we will do it just because of you. South Africans hate Zimbabweans because they were always criticising and insulting black South Africans. So, people like you Dave might be able to spread hatred and cause chaos amongst the society. I reiterate, if you Dave want us to hate Zimbabweans, we will hate them. We have never invite Zimbabweans to come and stay in our country. Why did Zimbabweans come to work and stay in Lesotho as its a slum like you said? Why didn’t they stay in their rich Zimbabwe? Why are they so scattered like beans in our country because you find Zimbabweans everywhere in our country? Why are they working and staying in our poor country rather than staying and working in their rich Zimbabwe? Ian Smith has helped build your Zimbabwe during his regime, then you feel proud and insult other peoples’ countries, you stupid idiot smelling odour.
I hate to repeat myself but I tell you again that we are definitely not hungry and we cannot ask for any food from Zimbabwe. Stupid you idiot, you want to lie to me that South African retailing brands are yours. Listing SA franchises in your stock exchange doesn’t mean you own that brands, you just bought franchises where you have been given directives on how to run the businesses. All these OK, Pick’n pay, Edgars etc. are all South African brands/franchises not Zims. They are foreign retailers and franchises. Don’t ever come or visit Lesotho, you are not welcomed. Stay in your country. We have never think of working and residing or even visiting your country, so don’t visit our country, stay in your rich country and leave our poor country alone you smelling rat.
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Nkosazana Zuma, control your anger you name thief. Fanchises cannot be listed on a stock exchange. You list the company that owns the franchise or the company that has been given the franchise. Edgars Zimbabwe is not a franchise of Edcon which owns Edgars shops in SA and other countries. It is an indepndent company with its own shareholding structure.Ok Zimbabwe is not a franchise of OK SA. Come Nkosazana Zuma these are simple fact that are just computer button click away. You are not going to stop me from coming to Lesotho. I will be there next week to collect some checks from your government for my work. I will be there for two days only but i want to meet you for a drink. Please accept the invitation name theif. Hahahahahahaha
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, I cease to argue with a fool. Yes Pick’n pay is a South African brand, I cannot fool myself saying Basotho own that brand whilst its SA brands. But Basothomen have bought Pick’n pay and Woolworths franchises opened here in Lesotho, but they are still SA brands not Lesothos, I cannot fool myself like you have done saying Zimbabwe own SA retailing brands. Maybe your narrow-mind doesn’t allow you to understand what a franchise is and how it works. Your shallow mind tells you that your country owns foreign brands/ideas if they have been listed in your country’s stock exchange.
You want to argue about Basotho’s franchise bought from SA retailers just because in your narrow mind, you think Basotho cannot own or buy anything costing millions because you praise how poor we are as if we sleep and wake on an empty stomachs. You undermine each and every mosotho living in Lesotho and you see them as animals not human beings like you, thats your main problem poor Africans. Whether you like it or not, Pick’n Pay and Woolworths that we have now in Lesotho are franchises bought by Basotho. You can undermine us the way you like, its your own problem. Lesotho has the rich people and the poor people just like Zimbabwe where there the rich and the poor, even if you can speak as if you are all rich, I cannot argue with you on that issue as it would be a pure lie.
We don’t know why Africans like you come to our countries to criticise and insult us in our own countries whilst we haven’t even visited your countries to criticise and insult you. You should only visit rich countries like USA, Britain, France, Australia, Germany, China, Japan and many more world rich countries where you will be happy and satisfied. Don’t ever visit our poor countries here in Africa just to insult us and our countries. Why did you skip South Africa to come to Lesotho? You came here just to criticise and insult us? Don’t ever come here, go to South Africa because Boers have developed it like as Ian Smith had developed Zimbabwe that make you to insult us. Just visit RSA because its rich and has everything that you want. Go to RSA for business not in our country. You think you are rich or born rich, so your narrow mind gives you that you have the right to criticise and insult Basotho and Lesotho. Phoooo! Shame on you stupid idiot from Zim!!! We do not ask for food and money from you and we will never do. To us, you are nothing. There’s nothing we can ask from you!!!
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Nkosazana Zuma, now that you are really angry and confused i will leave you to it. Let me prepare my trip to LESOTHO. Iam coming there whether to like it or not. Prepare to enjoy a drink with me.
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, I cannot argue with a fool any further. You think you can convince me talking nonsense. Buying 10%, 30% shares means you own other people’s companies? You make baseless arguments because you think Zimbabwe is so rich that Zimbabweans own everything that are not theirs. You must be sick in the head. You are so proud of what are not yours. Tell Zimbabweans to initiate new ideas and create their own brands so that you can freely feel so proud as you are. Don’t ever boast with that brands created by white people in the past years. I will not respond again as I have realised you are so narrow minded. You just want to proof and show how better your Zimbabwe is compared to Lesotho that you criticise and hurl insults. Even if Lesotho is that poor like you say, we have never gone to Zimbabwe to sell brooms and materials.
I wonder why people coming from very rich country like Zimbabwe coming into our poor Lesotho to sell brooms and materials, we are surprised why they want our money to earn a living. How can you travel that thousands of kilometres to a poor country asking for that poor peoples’ money? Why did they leave their so-called rich Zimbabwe for a poor country? You just talk too much and boast for nothing. I’m sure you were visiting Lesotho to sell brooms or materials. The way you speak indicates you are poor, you are not rich. Rich Zims cannot speak rubbish like you. They cannot even boast about their wealth. I think you are a Zimbabwean wandering around Maseru streets selling materials or brooms, having odour in their armpits. Shame on you poor Zim!!!
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, are you your ugly Mugabe didn’t ask for anything from the donors abroad? Ha!ha!ha! Are you coming to sell brooms and materials in Lesotho just because your ugly Mugabe is not a beggar, asking for anything from donors like Chinese? Even if Lesotho is that poor, in 2010 Lesotho gave your Mugabe government M10 million to sort out some of his government problems like starving Zims.
If you don’t believe it, go and ask Mugabe if Mosisili has given him anything in 2010. Mosisili govt gave out M10 million to Mugabe’s struggling govt in 2010. We wonder why Mugabe asked for that money if his country is rich like you say. I now cease to argue with you poor Zimbabwean. I stop wasting my valuable time arguing with you fool!!!
Comment by Nkosazana Zuma on 26 September 2012:
@Dave, you must be insane. Why do you want the money of a poor country? Why can’t you make business in your rich Zimbabwe? You are a real fool. What do you want in a slum country? Why can’t you stay in your wealthy Zimbabwe because we cannot visit your collapsed country or even walk in the streets of Zim towns? No money is going to be collected from government here, you are coming to collect money from Basotho who have bought your brooms or materials. You talk too much for nothing.
Comment by Dave on 26 September 2012:
@Nkosazana Zuma, The name thief is crying with anger. I thought you have already said you are done arguing with me. Do something else my dear or you will safer a heart attack. Iam coming there soon.
Comment by Lobengula on 26 September 2012:
@ DAVE which Zimbabwe are you referring that does not have slums? Right as one enters Zim from Beit Bridge, one is harassed by hungry looking hustlers and prostitutes. My man, there are slums in Beit Bridge; Masvingo; one can not sleep at the crossing at the Save River Bridge without the harassment of prostitutes. Slums in Mutare; Harare. Your people in the countryside live in near collapsing houses that are only suitable to house chicken. DAVE; the greatest export of Zimbabwe is prostitution! Your girls are champions on the streets of Johannesburg; Thohoyandou; Chimoio in Mozambique; Livingstone in Zambia! Ag sis man!
Comment by Mosotho boy on 9 November 2012:
I’m a very big fan of scru and i never for once miss her issues, i did my jc and got 3rd class and went to SA to do my high school, believe you me during math class you would swear i have seen a ghost, it was like i have never done maths at all for that matter i even went to a public school, i was groamed to an extend that i made it on the top 100 (#10) with a level 7 in math(distiction) and now in WESTMINSTER UNIVERSITY IN UK,from a 3rd to top 100, all i’m trying to say is that like it or not SA’s education is waaaay better than that of Lesotho.
Comment by Taelo on 3 February 2013:
I dnt deny tht the education system in Lesotho primary is better than tht of SA bt ur misin the point guys,parents snds their kids in SA in order to be inspired by the opportunities tht are offered n free high school education of course,tht they cnt afford in Lesotho
Comment by Sam M Lesutha on 18 April 2013:
I’m a living witness, i came in South African from Lesotho in 1995 and continued with my primary education in standard 4 (Grade 6) or standard 6 in Lesotho because I was supposed to go to Grade 7 but i was denied to go to that class because they claimed that I will struggle so much as the thought that Lesotho education was too lower that of South Africa, i became a suprise to the lot of them because I was a leading learner until Standard 7. Don’t be fooled Lesotho made me strong but I became weak when I started to study here
Comment by proudly Zimbo on 30 April 2013:
I wonder y pple r so bitter. This statistics wher not conducted and published by Zimbabwe.